actions at that time. >> did you want to hear from him? >> yes. >> you did. why? >> i want to hear what he had to say about the whole situation. >> you wanted to know from him why. >> yes, why. >> did you -- >> yes, i want to hear his side of the story. >> yes, i would have liked to have heard his side of the story. >> you want to hear from him. >> yeah, i think we all wanted to hear from him. whether it would have changed our perspective or not, it's just -- for us it's a traumatic experience. kind of closure for us to hear what were you thinking? how did it get to this? >> i don't think it would have made a difference. it would have been nice to hear his reasoning, why he did what he did. i keep thinking about this critical decision making model that they kept trained on and kept bringing up. it's you're supposed to