were fighting out there? >> yeah, it seemed like a hell of a whole lot longer than it actually was. and again, it was terrifying. watching it is a lot easier than living it, though. i haven't watched any video from the tunnel in quite sometime. it's -- it's difficult to see. >> is that on purpose that you don't watch it, you don't look at it? >> yeah, i just think i've just had enough. >> yeah. hey, can i -- i want to talk to you about something. i was reading this. i said -- what did i read? let me look at my script here. it said law enforcement faced with rioters swinging fists and all kinds of imp viced weapons.