his political organization is $122 million. i got two questions for you. any chance he using his fund-raising to help candidates? >> doubtful. he's going to be using it for himself and whatever his causes are. >> in just the past few days, trump said that pence could have overturned the election, he floated pardons for the rioters who assaulted officers and who stormed our capitol and may have been involved in seizing voting machines. the select committee will be holding public hearings this spring. who knows what else will come from this. is trump a ticking time bomb for the gop? >> yes, he's diminishing -- i think he's a diminishing figure, suggesting to pardon those rioter or insurrectionists. this is hurting him. more republicans are saying they're more loyal to the party than to trump. this kind of crazy stuff that he's just floated in recent days