in a gentle way. then they're both having their attention, handcuffing, putting their knee on the back of the black male and the white male gets up off the couch and is standing up and talking. they turn their attention totally away from him. it is obvious there is a perception, bias, you can see it in the entire interaction. >> as you were speaking there, you were narrating as it was happening and it interesting to see they completely ignored the white kid. he could have run away, who knows what he could have done. listen, i spoke last night to kai and his mother and i want you to listen. >> i hate to say this but if it wasn't for race what is it? what made them tackle my son and not the other kid? what made them be so aggressive with my son and not the other kid? why is the other kid sitting down looking at my son be humiliated and put into cuffs?