storm, it's like being in the center of the hurricane. you don't really know that there's a big storm all around you until it's too late and that's the fear that i have that the russians are moving forward. they have -- still have all the forces arrayed around the border that need to be used in the case of an invasion. it does look back from that perspective. >> colonel, in the case of an invasion, even with help from the international community, which has promised a significant amount of help, there's this huge disparate between russia's and ukraine's military. if this goes forward, what does ukraine do to defend itself effectively? >> so this gets to the realm of asymmetric warfare. you're looking at if the ukrainians are going to defend themselves effectively, they're not going to be able to do it in the way you would formally think of standard armies meeting each