the white house and virtually all of downtown in one big strek. >> wow. >> up here to new york city where you are, erin, look at this. this is the island of manhattan right here. you twist that storm and put it over the island and basically cover the entire island. that's how big this thing is and we're fortunate in a way as a nation that generally these form in less populated areas. if you live there, it's a terrible, terrible thing. the fatalities are awful. that is measure of this storm. >> bill, you talk about how things have changed. so, and obviously i know this is a geography and all things that go in to where they form and seeing bigger ones, is there a chance that where they happen would change, too? >> well, yeah. just keep in mind that we had tornadoes in brooklyn last year. i mean, that's just extraordinary. and so, you can't say that any one storm is associated with climate change. but all of the climate models we have so far indicate that storms