malaysia. but this is dealing with law enforcement. the law enforcement people and the person we spoke to in particular has a long record in the agency. he's with a special branch, it's their version of the fbi. he's worked on many investigations in the past. so, we're not aware of any plot to tie the plot in such a way. >> john, babsed on what we know and what you hear william say does it sound like a logical condlougs that the pilot may have been responsible? >> i think both pamela and william said the same thing it's a process elimination and that's correct. i can't see at this point that we have any evidence that has come to the public at least that says that it is the captain versus the first officer. i agree the first officer was very inexperienced but we do know a pilot had to do this. we do know there was a lot of sophistication required. if they are telling us there