has a gun in his hand. >> correct. >> that's pretty fascinating. what is his ultimate take away when he watched it frame by frame in terms of who is at fault? in >> throughout the methods they tried first. they only did that after the struggle for the gun took place is what he estimates happened. that's when you see the guns being drawn. for the community protesters who are out today marching to lapd headquarters. they think four men should be able to subdue one man. >> which is an interesting point in itself. three mens with guns in the last frame as you were showing us. thank you. an attorney for three of the lapd officers involve and a former lapd officer, himself, matthew fog is with me. thanks to both you have.