wrongful death lawsuit, that will get you money to the family. don't worry, my friend has it under control, he is a lawyer. i understand gloria's son said okay, and that's what happened. then there's a financial settlement and gloria's family doesn't even know about it, they don't know about it until they read about it in the press. tell me what happened here. you are now saying it was $4 million, and what do you think happened? alex murdaugh, it was basically insurance fraud and he took the money? >> well, he used i think our clients as a pawn. our clients had tremendous trust in murdaugh. they viewed him as family. he took them to a lawyer. it is unheard of in the legal business, erin, for a lawyer to take clients to another lawyer and then ask that lawyer to sue me. that's exactly what alex murdaugh did. he took them to his best friend, his college roommate, and he told that lawyer, sue me, i will have all of my different insurance policies, home owners, excess, umbrella coverage, and i will admit liability, and in