moderate democrats that might break ranks. if there are more than three, that is enough to scuttle the entire effort. the democratic leadership believes they can stave off those defections and push it through the house after months of intensive negotiations. that is just the first step, erin, because in the senate joe manchin has made clear to me and others for months that he wants significant changes. he's not on the same time frame and they'll have to pare back the bill significantly and push it back to the house to get it through here. this is the first step but not the last step in this arduous process. >> as manu is talking, he's on capitol hill, you see the vote. this is the vote tally you're seeing for the procedural vote. this is anticipated to pass. once it does, then they can move and they expect that they will tonight to a vote on the actual build back better plan tonight in the house. so i want to go to kaitlin collins because she's at the white house. that is where moderates had the meeting with white house