rulings. all of that his has been done in duplicate. no evidence of widespread fraud. >> what has happened is with my colleagues from the pressure from donald trump, is to only look at politics. and not at policy. this is a charade, what is gag going on with this constant drumbeat of all the massive voter fraud. >> and of course, as i said, she is a republican elected state representative. outfront now, david becker, an election security expert with over 20 years experience. he joined that wisconsin lawmaker, along with longtime republican elections lawyer, ben ginsburg and others in calling out efforts to delegitimize u.s. elections. so, david, talk to me about wisconsin. why does it worry you so much? >> well, wisconsin right now is ground zero for the election denial that we are seeing and