she told me the difference between the propagandas is the content. it still contained some element of positive future. putin's propaganda is like call of death. it's all poison. it's war. we have to fight everybody. soviet union had some friends. first time in my life i'm fai y ly pessimistic about the outcome. i see no positive scenario. >> a lot of western leaders would listen to you probably would not disagree with your analysis but say it's a huge country. ten time zones. 3,000 nuclear weapons, a veto on the security council. we have to do business with russia. >> i'm not telling you that