i'm drew patterson and i was an investor and adviser and consultant to hq trivia. colin and rus had different and complimentary kinds of skill sets. they met at jet setter. >> my next guest, drew patterson. i was the founder and the ceo. and we had great time together. lots of late nights. beers afterwards. those kinds of experiences created awesome cam raaraderie deep relationships and friendships. colin is an introvert, i suppose maybe i am as well, so we connected around that. rus and i had a professional relationship with, but we weren't friends in the way that colin and i were friends. colin was a world-class engineer. you look at what hq had to accomplish, colin was up with of the few people in the world. >> we definitely connect you closer with the people you know in the game. >> and rus is an incredibly talented designer. >> with hq trivia, eventually