inside, but remember, he's hunting in the wilderness. he's killing his own game, so he has weapons. >> as we got right up to the cabin, jerry went toward the front door, and we could hear some shuffling around inside, and the door opened, and there stood mr. kaczynski, and he started to turn to go back in the cabin, and when he did, jerry grabbed him and snatched him, and kaczynski was yelling and hollering and what have you. >> i was just elated at the time to see him, as awful as he looked, as awful as his hair looked, as awful as he smelled. >> it was incredulous to me that that's who we'd been looking for and who'd been avoiding capture for all these years. >> the cabin was a mother lode of evidence, 40,000 pages of writings -- >> bomb making materials, chemicals, journals. >> -- and all of his experiments that led to the construction of the bombs, some in mathematical codes, some in other languages, details of each unabomb event. >> everything in there