the foreign policy objectives and bolstering ukraine and continuing u.s. foreign policy support for ukraine, but he was interested in a political investigation. >> it's so unusual for a president to speak directly to an ambassador. i'm telling you, in the history of the united states, probably hasn't happened five times. >> gordon sondland was not just an ambassador. he gave a million dollars to the trump inaugural committee. >> a lot of them have given a million dollars. >> a lot of these who are political appointees, friends of a president, they speak with a president all the time. >> not so much. >> in a lot of administrations i've spoken to a lot of these ambassadors and they tell me -- >> i was in an administration where the president -- >> i don't know about the nixon administration. i'm talking about the bill clinton administration, i spent almost eight years covering that administration. there were political appointees and career diplomats, political appointees who were friends and would call and talk to the president.