joins me in new york. also, joined again by sea operations specialist tim taylor. good to see both of you. >> send me to new york and then they work me to death. >> that's what happens here. let's talk about this. where is jack and how big of a problem is jack going to cause? >> jack has made the entire sea search operation cease. not the bluefin, but everything that's on the surface. the surface of this ocean right now looks look a blender. the waves are 10, 15 feet. the winds are 60 miles, 80 miles an hour. you couldn't find anything on the ocean because it's just all white caps. the surface just completely shut down. 85 miles per hour. the bluefin is quite a distance away from where the sea surface surgings. they're still under the surface there. now where they have it, i was just watching this, you can go to marine traffic.com and look for the shield, the ocean shield, it's searching at about 17,000 feet of water.