talk about the next race. >> reporter: not which somebody from politico. >> rand paul, you said he was on the sunday shows yesterday. he said he is seriously considering a run for president. does that surprise you at all? >> reporter: it doesn't really surprise me, because we've seen really since the 2012 presidential elections ended and rand paul, of course, being in the senate, that he has very serious ambitions to take over the when, the libertarian wing of the republican party his father represented. his father in two presidential campaigns did this in a novelty candidate, somebody who was entertaining because of his ec sen trek kind of here's the way i see it position, but not somebody who was a real force in the party or had an effect on the nominating process. rand paul would get his father's movement. i think he would be taken serious to affect the process. >> how is rand different from