it's about russia fomenting this unrest. >> two follows. one, do we believe that these russian demonstrators are jugs military or paramilitary, they're if this weird garb and they don't identify themselves before they act? >> right. there's no question, they're wearing bulletproof vests, the insignias, where there are places for it, have been removed. this is very much what we saw in crimea and it appears to be very coordinated as well. this is happeninging in eastern ukraine an cities, all in the same way, organized, not just taking building but setting up road blocks as well. says that professional racing. >> ukraine is threatening to have counterterrorism. and is ukraine capable of taking on these kinds of forces, let alone the russian military? >> well, ukraine is far weaker than the russian military, that's for sure. it does have armed forces, it does have police forces.