echelon. what do you think? >> like many other people i'm going to be watching governor kasich. i think he's got the biggest -- just as you described, percentage gain. >> presidential. >> great resumé and the governor of a swing state. he's had setbacks and done combat down in the trenches and has won and lost. he's someone that can appeal across the aisle. >> this is his state. >> and this is his state. so, you know, he's going to be somebody to watch. somebody else to watch, though, i think are the senators who are in there. i mean, i want to hear what ted cruz, marco rubio has to say. they voted not to end the shutdown in the end. they saw that through really as far as you could possibly take it. and we'll see if they think the republican party wants to play that as a talking point going into 2016. >> very quickly, maggie, the format tonight, are these just going to be nuggets and bumper