but, at any rate, the united states is not like a lot of country that is have engaged in deradicalization. it's not saudi arabia or european states. in terms of how strong our separation between church and state is. we don't consider it to be a proper function of the state to tell muslims how to interpret islam. it puts limitations on the dimensions of any program. >> i would argue, more needs to be done. clearly, we need to have these conversations, if we haven't already. glad you could bring yur perspective to us. hopefully we can continue the conversation on "new day." >> great joining you. >> chris? the media politicians, politics are a buzz. why in jorge ramos got kicked out of trump's. was ramos right to put his agenda ahead of other reporters? we going to put the question to