ben carson, tby the way, he's made masterful use of facebook and social media. he's connected to voters in a way that outsiders can't necessarily penetrate or duplicate. >> both of you disagreed with me. ryan, the significance of this, i don't think should be understated right now. i know you're right. the polls in october don't necessarily equate to what we'll see in the caucuses. but we're seeing a trend now. the trend is donald trump was winning everywhere. now he's not winning everywhere, including the first voting state. and this could be problematic for his main argument which is i'm a winner. >> i agree with you there 100%. that's why the consultants always say don't go out there and brag about your polls in the summer and the fall. don't even mention them. if you're up in the polls, great. don't go out there every day and make that your message. his message if you watch his rallies or interviews, i'm going to win this thing because i'm at the top of the polls in the summer and fall. well, now he has a little bit of