credentials where he's competing with carson and probably cruz. rubio, the intriguing who had kind of, i thought, an okay debate. he was lucky as maggie noted to be exempted from this conversation. rubio is someone who is potentially acceptable to a big chunk of that establishment vote but not as noxious for the outsiders as, say, kasich and bush would be. but i do think you saw kasich putting his cards on the table. the identity he sketched out in the last debate, he really etched much more deeply in this one. i'm going to be the guy who will tell you the hard truths. i'm someone who can govern. that's the upscale, more establishment wing of the party and requires you to put all your chips into new hampshire. >> maggie, there's funny fact checking going on this morning about who has met more closely with putin. with vladimir putin. between carly fiorina and donald trump. is donald trump saying that because they were both on "60 minutes" the same night, though it wasn't taped at the same time