performance turned in by jeb bush thus far. 1% of republicans thought that jeb was the one who won that debate. donald trump i don't think distinguished himself on that stage. there was nothing memorable, there was no particular one liner. there was no policy statement. and yet a full third of republicans thought that he emerged victorious that night. so the overall picture is just one of incredible strength for him in a national survey. you know that we nominate on a state by state basis. but as i look at the totality of this new cnn survey, there is no achilles' heel evident for him. the internals show his groiwth, his favorite ability, evangelicals he's getting 45% of the vote. those without a college degree holding firm. so hard to see where the vulnerability is within the republican party. >> and the suggestion that it's just the talk, it's just the hype, no on the issues will --