and when she signs it, i expect it not to be a great ceremony, i just expect a young man to go out there and lower the flag and pack it up and put it away. it's been up since 1962. this state has been through a lot of trauma over the past decades and more specifically the past few weeks and months. i think when that flag comes down we'll be able to breathe a sigh of relief. but we also understand the flag coming down is not the end of anything, just the beginning of a long journey we have in south carolina for healing, reconciliation and moving our state forward. >> bakari seller, cnn contributor, thank you very much. >> happy fourth of july to you and all the americans watching. >> to you, too. the next hour starts in a moment. the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪