>> it was really fascinating to watch, not just the human interaction, but from the get-go, you have to swim into shark-infested waters because you're on an island without the resources and you're not going to survive 21 days. and what struck me was it was interesting skills that got you by. for instance, this hat i'm sort of wearing, we saw you wearing a lot. >> yes! are you wearing it? >> yes. >> are you wearing the coconut shells, too? >> no, i can't wear the coconut bra you made because our producer jason took it and will not give it up, so i don't have that, but you are a weaver -- >> tell jason i'll make him a coconut jock strap, too, if he wants. >> he's listening. we'll let him know that. but this sort of skill really came in handy, right, for keeping the sun off of you and for making things. talk about that. >> absolutely. yeah, i actually made the first couple things for jonathan because i could tell he was get a lobsterfied, but he didn't take on to the island-style clothing until a while later.