we found in studies that 20% of middle school kids that used e-cigarettes only used e-cigarettes, what that suggests to me and it's not proof but what it suggests to me is that some kids are starting to e-cigarettes and getting hooked on nicotine and going on to regular cigarettes and that's a real problem because those kids could be getting condemned to a lifetime of nicotine addiction. >> and they will say they are not targeting kids because you have to be over 18, but we have to bring it up because some of the marketing campaigns. >> the fiscal cliff looms on monday night and into tuesday, as i am sure you well know, and for an organization like the cdc, can you give me tangible impacts it could happen if there is a government shutdown? >> we hope there will not be a government shutdown, and sequest sequester, shutdown, and the talk of shutdown is disruptive