another hijacked plane, and they were asking for permission to shoot down an identified hijacked commercial aircraft. i asked the vice president that question and he answered it in the affirmative. i asked again to be sure. sir, i'm confirming that you have given permission for me being a military member and aviator, understanding the absolute depth of that question was and what the answer was, i wanted to make sure that there was no mistake whatsoever about what was being asked. without hesitation, in the affirmative he said any confirmed hijacked airplane may be engaged and shot down. you were the first person to get this interview with him. that's an incredible moment. >> yeah, and the way that he understood in that moment the immense power of what he was asking. i mean, this was the request to shoot down a civilian domestic airliner over american air space and he went right back to cheney and asked again to confirm. and cheney actually was quite annoyed to be asked a second time. cheney had made his decision. he knew it was the right thing