not clear how much they will be willing to say. >> joining us now is shane harris. he's an intelligence and national security reporter for "the washington post." he co-wrote this article. shane, thanks for joining us to share your reporting. what do you know about this phone call and the promise that was made? >> what we know essentially is what we broke in the paper last night. this communication happens between the president and a foreign leader. we don't know when and we don't know the leader nor how this individual found out about it. there are things we can deduce. we know this person is an intelligence official who worked on the national security council staff for some period of time. people like that are often in a position to get read outs or summaries of conversations that the president has had with foreign leaders. but whatever it was so alarmed this individual that he or she decided to go through the legal route for reporting it and that's how we've arrived at that point where we are now with the inspector general's investigation. >> okay. so to your point, this person