gowdy wouldn't let even another republican who wasn't on the committee in. so when you contrast that to this swarm of republicans trying to get in claiming they deserve to be in, it's just -- i mean, what's the word for what they're doing. >> desperate. that's what it is. the testimony we've seen this week has been so devastating to the core excuses we've seen from the republican administration that they're resorting to these tactics rather than address -- they're doing publicity stunts to try to distract away from the substance of the investigation. at the oend the day, it's not going to work. baa they're going to continue to have depositions and continue to get witnesses and the facts are going to be made to the american people. this is all a smoke screen. they don't know what to do by the substance of the testimony. they don't have an answer for what rudy giuliani's role of being a shadow diplomat for the