consistent with taylor about how strange it was that this assistance was held back. now, the white house has embraced volker. this is stephanie grisham's statement from yesterday. she said volker's testimony con i remember ifs there could not have been a quid pro quo. what volker said is to my knowledge, they did not know. and keep in mind the white house -- let's be careful here. this is something volker texted before then. heard from white house assuming president z. convinces trump he will investigate -- get to the bottom of what happened in 2016, we will nail down a date for a visit to washington. if the white house thinks this guy is their savior, they better think again. >> they want to lean on volker after sondland who they thought was going to be a good witness for them turned out to be awful. >> sondland was all over the map. sondland gave us similar testimony. trump kept saying talk to rudy, talk to rudy. same language volker used. sondland gave interesting