guess it would be relatively interesting listening from just a listener's perspective, which, obviously, i am. >> which his lawyer may not have the -- >> his lawyer is not going to want that. >> terrific reporting. thanks for coming on. thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you, cnn newsroom is next. for u.s. viewers, we're about 24 hours until this historic moment when the impeachment proceedings go public on capitol hill. "new day" continues right now. it is a critical week heading into these public hearings. >> seeing this live testimony as opposed to reading transcripts is a big deal. >> laura cooper testified the aid was being held up. >> they didn't know this testimony would undermine that argument. >> they didn't want to admit that the president had that kind of leverage on them and made them look weak. >> this has been a consistent theme in this white house. mick mulvaney and cipollone have not been on the same page. >> this is "new day," with alisyn camerota and john berman.