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but saying that comment in michigan where, obviously, the dingells are from. he was the longest serving congressman when he died in february. you really see what the crowd thought of that remark. and it's often pretty reflective of what you hear from voters. they like what the president does, they do not like when he makes comments like that. >> it doesn't need to be a question of politics or transactive politics. it's a matter of humanity. the president said something cruel about someone who has passed away. he said a human being was in hell. >> by the way, recently passed away. his wife is currently grieving. >> debbie dingell was on with you. it was a really lovely discussion. debbie dingell responded as a human being. let's hear from her. the widow of john dingell. >> i don't want to politicize his death. it's still something i'm really grieving over. this thanksgiving was really hard. and christmas is harder. and i am going to go back to doing my job. and doing a good job for the

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