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not providing security. they are saying there is exactly what they trained for. rhodes, your client, actually said at one point when he is -- in response to a claim by an oath keeper's affiliate that antifa breached the capitol, he said, nope. i'm right here. they are patriots. he was clearly the organizer of all of this. >> well, at that moment. but i'm saying why did they come to d.c.? why did they do these things? the indictment says practically they ate a hamburger on their way up here in order to make their way up here. i'm speaking hypothetically. the prosecution knows that's false. not in the indictment. that's why i'm concerned about the indictment as a work of fiction. >> okay, then explain this.

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