crimes and i think it is better if we here at the pentagon let them do their investigation and work. it is certainly not the behavior of a responsible nuclear power. just the other day, brie, we in the department of defense, secretary austin, delayed an icbm test launch, just a test launch, one scheduled for a couple of years, because of the tensions right now. the escalatory tensions caused by mr. putin talking about putting nuclear forces on heightened alert. that's what a responsible nuclear power does. responsible nuclear power does not attack a nuclear power plant. >> if a russian attack on a nuclear power plant, because there are others, spreads radiation to a nato country, will that be considered an article 5 violation? >> yeah, look, again, that's a question for the alliance to make specifically -- i would remind that article 5 makes it clear that it is an armed attack on a nato ally, triggers article 5, an armed attack. but how that's interpreted, that