what about how and where it will be used in ukraine? >> the word now is it will be used in the even battle of donbas. they are not that familiar obviously with that ter rain with the country, which is why they would need extra training at this point. most would be coming from syria. this group, though, ways affiliated the first came known after russia's annexation in crimea in 2014. obviously, giving vladimir putin that plausibility deniably, the little green men. no insignia on the uniforms. that's where we first saw them being in ukraine these fighters, however, would be transferred over. will be trained, perhaps they will be thrown into the lot there as russia continues this onslaught. >> all right. thank you so much for helping us understand this shadowy, i truly mean that, group. just in the producers of the