accomplishing here by bringing up chris christie, by bringing christie into this conversation? >> i think mitt romney, more than anybody, looked at all the exit polls and all the data and saw the republican party's demographic. and saw that it is shrinking rather than growing. i remember when ronald reagan wanted the big tent. right now the republican party is more like a tepee. i think he knows it's got to grow. and the governors are -- look at chris christie. popular in a blue state. a republican governor, popular in a blue state. mitt romney was at that point a moderate republican governor, also in a blue state of massachusetts. so i think this is where he comes from. and i think it was as pointed as he could get before this audience, without insulting people, saying, you know what, these are governors you should have perhaps included on your roster because they are the future of the party too. >> you said moderate. but i remember last year, i think the quote was, he said he was severely --