fell behind, but he was ahead of us, and when -- it was definitely -- he couldn't have gotten more than five minutes ahead, probably not that much. maybe two or three, he's just walking faster than we are on this mountain trail, and, you know, when we got up to that ridge where they have, you know, seating, a beautiful overlook, i fully expected to see him. >> and he wasn't there. >> he wasn't up there. and my other son had gotten up there first, and no, he hadn't seen him. so that, you know, that concerned me because, you know, we'd done things like this a lot, and he certainly might have gone up ahead of us and then waited, but to go off -- you know, not waited when there wasn't an obvious way to go, nothing like this has ever