two fatalities. the fatalities did occur yesterday and the question was whether or not we know information about their family members. one of the thing that is we want to do is make sure that we respect those who have lost loved ones in crashes like this. we work very hard to make sure that they have time and they have space for grieving. and that they're stretreated respect. so i would ask all of you to give them that space. i don't have that information. but i will not be sharing it with the press. it's up to the family members to decide if they want to -- >> [ inaudible ] >> are you looking at the other incident of a 777 at heathrow and similarities of those two and a speed problem that you're aware of. >> sure. could you identify yourself. >> steve from -- >> hi, steve. the question was about previous