get him. he felt like it was a self-defense move. >> so as we mentioned, he -- ultimately this goes to trial. he goes to this hospital. deemed sane. connect the dots for me, ann marie. how does he go from being this mental patient and killing his family to being a pretty well respected psychology chair of a department? >> sure. when he was at rus k, rusk had a partnership program with steven f. austin university in texas. we presume he took some courses. he was releasted in 1974. in 1976 he received a bachelor's degree as james wolcott. we found he received a master's degree as james st. james in 1980 in psychology. that was also at a texas university. it was at that point that he -- when he decided to take on a doctor ral program. he went to the university of illinois at champaign. he told me that was one of the top half dozen colleges in the world for the kind of program that he wanted to be involved