a catastrophic loss of the aircraft. there would be no further data. so what has to happen now is what happens. the second thing that happens in u.s. crash investigations, the first thing is to send the go team. the second thing is to gather every piece of data, every maintenance report, every engine speck, every engine log, plane log. every piece of data about the maintenance operation, performance of that plane and study it. that needs to be done next. and if this data exists and it hasn't been provided to the investigators, frankly, i think that's almost criminal. >> you are echoing what bob francis told us earlier. he's a former ntsb investigator. now u.s. investigators are on the scene in malaysia and i've been asking everybody, how much input do you think they really have? >> well, they are not in charge. there's a treaty, international civil aviation -- icao. it sets forth how this should be done. the u.s. follows it. most nations follow it but it is