himself with what he just said to those homeless vets? >> reporter: that's the big question. we'll be waiting the see what comes out of that closed-door meeting. no cameras allowed. the president did give some indication of what to expect in that meeting. he spoke in an interview with abc. he said he's going to have a serious conversation with shinseki to see whether he thinks he's prepared and has the capacity to take on the jobs of fixing the problems at the va. he said i don't want any veteran to not be getting the kind of service they deserve. certainly we saw in secretary shinseki's remarks that he believes he has the capacity to fix these problems. these problems are big, but can and must be fixed and immediately. a lot of people are saying secretary shinseki is taking responsibility means he should resign, he should fall on his sword. clearly secretary shinseki means taking responsibility means sticking around to try to fix