veterans, he outlined the steps they made to bring that down to 24% over the past three years. that gives indication of some problem that he was able to help fix. certainly secretary shinseki has a plan that he's begun to lay out for trying to turn this around. the question is going to be whether the president wants to stick with him during this time and replace it later or replace him right now. >> we may find out soon. they're meeting at 10:15 eastern time, just under an hour from now. i want to thank barbara starr, athena jones, erin mcpike and drew griffin. eric shinseki smoking out moments ago addressing the problems we're having with veterans affairs, long wait lines, times as hospitals and on and on and on. drew griffin is reporting on that. more on the breaking news in just a moment as well as other news. we'll be right back.