to be no longer a threat to the general public. >> yeah. just to speak to the difficulties going forward when it comes to other radicals who are being sent back to various european countries, not just the uk. what happens with them? >> well, yes, exactly. and this is the big challenge. there are deradicalization programs which i think are still in a very, very good degree of immaturi immaturity. these individuals, we've got to remember, they're unlike other criminals, although in many regards most of the terrorists that have been subsequently apprehended or neutralized as yesterday did have some involvement in criminality to some degree. but it's about their motivations, now, the problem that we face, with these individuals, the british nationals, they have to be treated -- there has to be a massive takeup in this country because this countproblem is goo