happened. they won't tell you, and i'm not going to. >> wait, wait, wait, wait. >> no. >> wait, wait. you said they know the real reason. they are not going to tell us. you're not going to tell us. >> the bottom line is there's basically, and it's staff driven. i understand staff. it's not the.. it's the staff and they drove some things and put some things through the were absolutely inexcusable. they know what it is and that's it. >> what's your message to manchin right now? >> strange that this leader in the senate who has been working with skofrs hours for the president on this incredibly important legislation at the last minute would blame it on white house staff, and you notice the way that he made his announcement. he had a staffer go over to the white house before he was to go on the news yesterday and tell the white house and then when the white house called him prior to his going on the news to say he was going back on his word,