thought was -- >> this was a priority for giuliani? >> yes, he doesn't hide it, it's his work, that's what he was hired to do to represent the president of the united states and his personal interests. >> by trying to further conspiracy theories about the president's political opponents? >> no. we need to investigate this properly. >> sergei disagrees. giuliani began applying pressure to investigate the bidens shortly after the election. >> i knew it, sure, for giuliani it was interesting. to use this information on the u.s. >> you think he was focused on it for the president or? >> for sure. not for his private purposes.