field by a wide margin so the story here is really donald. it started out as amusing and now it definitely has to be taken seriously. i agree with what carly fiorina said yesterday, donald is a wake-up call the entire country needs to take seriously. i think at this point though actually he's dangerous and anybody who is still kind of looking at it and thinking it will just ride it out and it's kind of amusing, it's time to take a closer look. >> why do you say, mindy, he's dangerous, his candidacy is dangerous? >> he's a bully. carol, this morning i dropped off my 3-year-old for first day of school and i thought about what are my hopes and dreams for him as he goes through his school life? what are the lessons i want to teach him? we all look to our kids and we want them to be a leaders. it's not be a bully, name call, think of bim as bimbos and dogs. you know, it's not -- i actually kind of look at the donald a bit like an abusive boyfriend. there's an allure, he's filling