first recorded interview in decades. an anonymous mexican law enforcement official say this meeting and other things helped them recapture guzman on friday. let's discus the legal ramifications penn could be facing. page pate and cnn senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources," brian felter. good to see all of you. oh, boy. a whole lot of questions here. brian, let's begin with you because this interview, this moment, and now an article on "rolling stone." there is so much we don't know about how it came about, but we do know that the mexican actress helped facilitate it. but then what's troublesome to you about "rolling stone's" knowledge of this and its involvement in helping to facilitate this interview, making it to print? >> what's exceedingly unusual about this whole story, this 11,000-word story, is it was shared with el chapo before