to them as a fight between islam and the west. that is their jihad. jihad among the true believers is any kind of struggle. isis is taking this to an extreme of a physical struggle of anyone that doesn't believe the extreme views of their religion and the way they do should be killed and defeated. so i think, yes, it certainly does play into that realm, because they are seeing people in the west hate all muslims and that's being transcribed that way. i'm sorry? >> no, i was just going to say, i just came back from being in paris and san bernardino, and i saw the fear. i mean, i could feel the fear among people. you just saw the guest we had last hour, paula in new hampshire, trump supporter, fearful neighbors could have pipe bombs. >> yeah. that is the concern, because we're replacing compassion with fear. outreach with internalization. those are all the things that