public. >> as i would note, since nixon, presidents and presidential candidates have voluntarily shown their tax returns to the people. tell us time frame here. donald trump is expert at stretching things out in court. is this one he can stretch out for much longer? >> yeah. just because litigation takes a long time. exactly as kara said, the briefing schedule will take weeks to set up, then hearings and so on. congress isn't seeing these tomorrow, though they should. >> quickly, on the house ways and means committee, as i remember, wasn't there some language about they shall have the ability to do this? this is not out of nowhere, right, that they claim this right. >> the justice department was where that language came from and said explicitly that congress in its oversight authority, has the ability to look into these tax returns as long as they're narrowed in what they choose to use them for. >> eliot, thank you, we've been there before. thanks very much.