sheriff, and them saying wait a second, one moment where he says, bro, and the kids say, that's a red flag, bro, that doesn't sound look a sheriff would say. when you look at that reaction, did you think the students there saved lives? >> absolutely. jim and erica, those kids, i feel for them. but they're heroes. if we know what the shooter was up to, they put it together, quickly, and they got out of there. they are heroes. it is a tragedy. but it could have been a lot worse if those kids weren't thinking. but it is also horrible that our kids now go to school, and have to deal with this. it is horrible. >> i have to say that was one of my first thoughts of the active shooter trainings that our kids are now going through, that the